Proof Ancient Egypt was a Nordic Empire ;)

The ancient Egyptians were white.  Some even claim that they were Nordic.  The mummy of the Pharaoh Ramses II is indisputable proof.

caucasian 1

Afro-centrists aren’t getting around this one.  Only “white” people have these facial features:

caucasian 2

And the winners of “The Ramses II Look-Alike Contest” are…

[drumroll]

ramses lookalile

…all blonde, white, Nordic, Germanic, Teutonic Danish Vikings!

Funny, I don't FEEL Nordic...
Funny, I don’t FEEL Nordic…

See Ramses come face-to-face (literally) with modern northeast African men for a comparison (skip to 4:30):

Egypt (Ta-Merry, Ta-Nehisi, Meroe, Kemet) had Black natives, but it was a crossroads of cultures.  So let’s just play devil’s advocate, and argue that  Ramses was “white”:

American President Barack Obama is “black” (actually half “white”, so technically grey).  If people exhume his remains, and those of his wife and children 2,000 years from now, sequence their genomes and measure their skulls, should they conclude that all Americans throughout its history were “black”? 

Sounds stupid, doesn’t it?

Not every ruler, or person living in Egypt, was originally from Egypt (that’s certainly the case today).  Some dynasties were west Asian, like the Greek Ptolemaic Dynasty.  Persians ruled Egypt from time to time, as did Turkic Muslims and Romans.  And nobody knows where the Hyksos came from, but they were “white”.  The native Egyptians were “black” Africans, but there were “white” people in Egypt (similar to America or Brazil with their natives marginalized to the point of invisibility by a cosmopolitan mix of invaders.)i

Here’s the real, real truth:  You know very little about race, and what you (think you) know doesn’t benefit you:

Common Racial Notions

  1. “Black” people have broad noses, woolly hair and full lips.

caucasian 3

2. “White” people have long, lank hair blond, and blue, green and hazel eyes.

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3.  (East) Asians have “slanted”* eyes.

*epicanthic fold

caucasian 5

By that “logic”, this is a White Black Man…

middle

…and this is a Black White Man…

black- straight hair, thin features

 

And these are…  ??

pale, straight blond hair

Back to the Original Topic

They were Northeast Africans, meaning they typically exhibited dark skin, gracile musculature, wavy to kinky hair, and often had “negroid” facial features:

akhenaten
Akhenaten, Father of Tutankhamen

Amāna- ātpa (Amenhotep III, Amenophis III;
Amāna- ātpa (Amenhotep III, Amenophis III; “Amun is Satisfied”)
Never make the mistake of thinking Egypt was the Origin of knowledge and understanding... It was the last of the African dynasties.
Never make the mistake of thinking Egypt was the Origin of knowledge and understanding… It was the last of the African dynasties.
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34 thoughts on “Proof Ancient Egypt was a Nordic Empire ;)

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  2. Really love the lack of facts you have here.
    Blond hair is exclusively European, meaning any other group that possess that trait is PART European.
    The hair is wavy, a trait found most commonly in Northern Europe or Europe. It is not kinky like Negro hair or curly like Hamitic hair.
    The hook nose looks fairly European, although albeit not Nordic. It likely is a result of some admixture.

    • There is pictorial proof of every assertion made, and, as they say, “a picture is worth a thousand words.” Do yo have anything to back your claims- picture or otherwise? Is there any link, any article, any dictionary or lexicon which you can use to back up even one thing that you have written? I dare you to try to find even one, and provide it here.

      • I can offer you GREAT proof. In fact, you can check it out for yourself. If the Ancient Egyptians were Blacks, why hasn’t another great nog empire risen up in it’s place? Why do nogs have the lowest IQ if they are the founders of such a great civilization? Why can they not manage their own countries in Africa, even with foreign aid? Why do they commit the vast majority of crimes in all countries they inhabit?
        Surely the Egyptians weren’t at this disgustingly low level.

        • You have nothing to offer.

          And the last thing you will do is try to SUBMIT a critical analysis of the evidence I present (which you’ve already failed to do) BECAUSE YOU CAN’T.

          I know you can’t, and I’m pretty sure you do as well, so this comment is mostly for whoever else is reading.

          The Development of Agriculture in Africa
          “Modern Blacks reach the middle Nile by around 4,000 YBP. At 3,000YBP, the Bantus spread from Cameroon all through East, Central andSouthern Africa, bringing agriculture, and iron-making, with them.”
          Read more at: https://www.academia.edu/4168162/The_Development_of_Agriculture_in_Africa

          Medieval East African Iron and Steel Industries, as chronicled by contemporaneous and modern historians
          https://sites.google.com/site/historyofeastafrica/note-of-the-east-african-steel-industry

          (Ethnic) African mathematicians are helping propel ALL humans, not just pale ones, into space
          http://margotleeshetterly.com/hidden-figures-nasas-african-american-computers/

          The Grandeur of Ancient African Civilizations
          Some of the world’s greatest cities during the Middle Ages were on the eastern coast of Africa. Their ornate stone domes and soaring walls, made with ocean corals and painted a brilliant white, were wonders to the traders that visited them from Asia, the Middle East, and Europe. They were the superpowers of the Swahili Coast, and they’ve long been misunderstood by archaeologists. It’s only recently that researchers outside Africa are beginning to appreciate their importance.
          http://io9.com/the-great-lost-cities-of-africa-1507656099

          Nok Culture: Terra-Cotta figurines of various art styles dating back to 900 B.C. in Nigeria
          There can have been few archaeological discoveries made as a direct result of open-cast metal mining which have given such a revealing and intimate picture of a completely unsuspected yet widespread culture as those made at Nok, which is situated very close indeed to the geographical center of Nigeria.
          https://selfuni.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/hidden-history-west-africas-nok-civilization/

          This is in addition to the fact that much of the art of pale/”white” artists is stolen or borrowed from ethnic African culture: blues, rock’n’roll, tango, Cubism, etc.

          Here is an interesting read about African civilization:
          https://selfuni.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/100-things-you-did-not-know-about-african-civilization/

          Dark-skinned Africans conquered many parts of the world and founded many religions, besides Vodun:
          5 Arab Kingdoms Dominated By Africans Before Rise of Islam
          http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/26/black-men-ruled-world-5-arab-kingdoms-dominated-africans-rise-islam/

          5 Gods Whitewashed in Recent History
          http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/09/25/black-gods/

          Ancient Images of Buddha depict African features
          http://www.nairaland.com/68677/ancient-black-buddha

          Early Descriptions and Depictions of Jesus are of an African:
          Early Depiction of Jesus Shows Tightly-Coiled Hair
          https://selfuni.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/early-depiction-of-jesus-shows-nappy-hair-dont-tell-megyn-fox/
          The Black Madonnas Of Europe
          https://selfuni.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/the-black-madonnas-of-europe-miracle-workers-and-holy-icons/
          Critical Analysis of the European Jesus Meme
          http://www.panafricanalliance.com/critical-analysis-of-the-european-jesus-meme/

          You have nothing to offer, because everything you have, minus your “cuisine” and “sex”uality is from dark-skinned people.

          You should submit.

          I UFO you Wright Brothers

        • Pale-skinned people (West Asians/Albinos/etc.) have committed the vast majority of crimes in HISTORY, nevermind the countries there are in. Fortunately for the rest of us, as an alternative to you, there are actual facts:
          FACTS

          (from United States Department of Justice)

          1. “White”-on-“white” crime worse than “black”-on-“black” crime

          -84 percent of ethnic West Asians (“whites”) people killed every year are killed by other “whites”.
          -In 2011, there were more cases of “whites” killing “whites” than there were of ethnic Africans (“blacks”) killing “blacks”.
          -Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by ethnic West Asian people, with a majority of the homicide victims being “white” as well.

          1. “Whites” are BY FAR the most violent Americans

          West Asians are also more likely to kill:
          -children,
          -the elderly,
          -family members,
          -their significant others, and
          -even themselves!

          1. West Asians are most criminal demographic

          In 2013, West Asian (“White”) Americans led all other groups in
          -aggravated assault,
          -larceny-theft,
          -arson,
          -weapons-carrying, and
          -vandalism.

          When it comes to sexual assault, West Asian (“white”) Americans take the forcible rape cake.

          West Asian (“white”) Americans commit more
          -sex-related crimes,
          -gang related crimes, and
          -are more likely to kill at their places of employment.

          QUESTION:
          In America, “whites” commit the majority of crimes, and they are also responsible for a vast majority of violent crimes, so why do the media talk about “Black-on-Black” violence But Not “White-on-White” violence?

          Because they don’t want you to know that the most dangerous person in the world is a “white” man in a suit.

          Because of the fear of revenge, vengeance and justice.

          Because of white guilt. The crimes of genocide- past and present- are so great, that some “whites” deal with it by developing:
          -a savior complex– the belief that all they do is good- or

          “Missionary” who admitted to raping boys and girls in while saving their African souls

          -a persecution complex– the irrational and obsessive feeling or fear that what they’ve done to others is actually happening to them.

          Because “the most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.” (Steven Biko)

          Because of the “Hide in Broad Daylight” Strategy: you can’t win a war when you don’t even know there is one, or who your enemy is:

          Crimes committed by whites often are explained in the media as deviations of the individual — “He was such a quiet man; the community is shocked” — but have nothing to do with race. But crimes committed by Blacks or Latinos are somehow attributed to race, with little exception. Gang-bangers from South Chicago have somehow become a symbol that Black men are to be feared, but there is not the same characterization of fear that one could attach to the brutal murders committed by Neo-Nazi skinheads.

          Because West Asians don’t want to look at:
          who they are- aposematic humans– or

          where they come from.

          “White” = ethnic West Asian (“European”); West Asian American
          Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html

    • You are wrong about blonde hair originating in Europe. It orignated in the caucasus mountains and the surrounding area which is in the middle east. Caucasians exist outside of Europe, race doesn’t have subcontinental boundaries. Caucasians migrated from that area to Europe, scientifically supported. Literally all of the words that mean “white” come from the Middle East. Caucasian = caucasus mountains, Aryan = Iran. Afghans and Iranians are aryans. Middle Easterners outside thegulf are either slightly tanned like Italians or pale with different hair and eye colors, still all white people though. There are blonde children ethnically native to Afghanistan and Iran who have little to none “European” admixture. It is shown that it is the same gene that creates blondism in Europeans. It has also been noted that the people in that region had colored hair and eyes long before any Europeans arrived there.

      You don’t even have to be caucasian at all to be naturally blonde. Just look at the Melanesians for instance. They’re blonde australoids and they have their own geeks for blonde hair, scientists have already discovered that the gene for blonde hair in Melanesians is different than the ones caucasians have, so they got it from themselves.

      The ancient Egyptians came from a bunch of people, but we can probably assume they were mostly of either full caucasoid, full negroid, or a mixture between the two.

      • Two things:

        1.Terms for “White” such as Caucasian/Caucasoid and Aryan were created by white people – specifically, white racists. Aryan original meant noble. White racists misappropriated the term for their own agenda. Caucasian came from, as you mentioned, the caucasus mountains. Why exactly that racist scientist chose that name I don’t know bc I prefer not to give racists, past and present, the time of day. These terms were created with ill intent. All you had to say was that the gene which causes blondism in Europeans isn’t exclusive to Europeans. Middle Eastern people might share a lot of traits with Europeans, but you better believe most people (including most middle easterners) don’t consider them white. Ntm that in ancient times the people who primarily populated the Mesopotamian region were dark skinned and dark haired.

        2.Ancient Egypt was founded by and for Indigenous Black Africans, with little to no influence from Europe or West Asia. Throughout most of its history it was primarily ruled and populated by Indigenous Black Africans. Any ancient European or West Asian who found themselves in Egypt would have been a part of a minority. The evidence pointing to such a conclusion is overwhelming and you continuing to cling to the racist science of the past is sad.

        Race isn’t a thing in Biology – at least not how we think of it. Also Caucasoid and Negroid are racist terms and no longer used by mainstream science.

        • You are wrong in your consensus.All of the pharaohs led their armies into Nubia,kush and southern regions of Africa to conquer those areas and bring Nubian prisoners back to Egypt to do labor for their empires construction. You can read all about Amenhotep,King Seti I,Rameses and Tutankamun rule over those lands and people by each pharaohs personal scribe who chronicled their military campaigns. And while your at it,Google Tuts walking cane,sandles and treasure chest. All of these items depict Pharaohs dominance over Nubians and Semites.Ancient Egypt was a Nordic Desert Empire that prospered for 2,000 + years.

  3. And to that end, I offer my assistance.

    Here is an article proving “Blond hair is exclusively European, meaning any other group that possess that trait is PART European”:

    http://kwekudee-tripdownmemorylane.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-melanesian-africans-of-solomon.html

    Here is a picture demonstrating that non-Nordic people’s hair is “kinky like Negro hair or curly like Hamitic hair” (top right):

    Here is an example (top left) of hair that is “wavy, a trait found most commonly in [Northwest Asia] or [West Asia]”, (and blond to boot!):

    Here is a hook nose that is “fairly [West Asian], although albeit not Nordic” (top left):

    It looks like all you had to do to disprove my article was… read my article… 😉

  4. My short vid on this topic

    I attack this this from a slightly different angle. I recognise ancient Egypt as having began as a Black African civilization that soon took on Eurasian elements during its 4000 yr history & eventually became predominately Eurasian(Caucasoid) as it is today. My more detailed blog on the topic https://hucipher.wordpress.com/

  5. LMAO the caucasian features that you presented in those images are just either rarity in black race, result of race mixing or is an abnormality/deformity. Meaning it is not common, so it means that MOST of the pharaoh who happens to display caucasian features composed of the rarest person of your race? So tell me how many of the blacks possess those caucasian features, why it is common in Ancient Egyptian royals while not in pure blooded blacks? And also that one on the “hook nose” the man with the arab head cover is NOT black, he looks very similar to a dark-skinned semite ,also the “thin lips” one can’t really tell if he is really thin lipped since his lip is same color with his skin and it looks thick to me. You can’t say you are pure blooded black when you don’t display their feature, otherwise you are clearly mixed, or just a very rare incidence which is not enough to fill most of the Ancient Egyptian masters or deformed. And what about this: “Never make the mistake of thinking Egypt was the Origin of knowledge and understanding… It was the last of the African dynasties.” What other African dynasty predate Ancient Egypt (which started as early as around 3100BC)? And puhlease be reminded, I am asking for CIVILIZATION not some city dwellings or human settlement/activity.

    • What other African dynasty predate Ancient Egypt (which started as early as around 3100BC)? And puhlease be reminded, I am asking for CIVILIZATION not some city dwellings or human settlement/activity.

      Professor S.O.Y. Keita
      Department of Biological Anthropology
      Oxford University

      Professor A. J. Boyce
      University Reader in Human Population
      Oxford University

      What was the primary geographical source for the peopling of the Egyptian Nile Valley? Were the creators of the fundamental culture of southern predynastic Egypt—which led to the dynastic culture—migrants and colonists from Europe or the Near East? Or were they predominantly African variant populations?

      These questions can be addressed using data from studies of biology and culture, and evolutionary interpretive models. Archaeological and linguistic data indicate an origin in Africa. Biological data from living Egyptians and from skeletons of ancient Egyptians may also shed light on these questions. It is important to keep in mind the long presence of humans in Africa, and that there should be a great range of biological variation in indigenous “authentic” Africans.

      Scientists have been studying remains from the Egyptian Nile Valley for years. Analysis of crania is the traditional approach to assessing ancient population origins, relationships, and diversity. In studies based on anatomical traits and measurements of crania, similarities have been found between Nile Valley crania from 30,000, 20,000 and 12,000 years ago and various African remains from more recent times (see Thoma 1984; Brauer and Rimbach 1990; Angel and Kelley 1986; Keita 1993). Studies of crania from southern predynastic Egypt, from the formative period (4000-3100 B.C.), show them usually to be more similar to the crania of ancient Nubians, Kushites, Saharans, or modern groups from the Horn of Africa than to those of dynastic northern Egyptians or ancient or modern southern Europeans.

      Another source of skeletal data is limb proportions, which generally vary with different climatic belts. In general, the early Nile Valley remains have the proportions of more tropical populations, which is noteworthy since Egypt is not in the tropics. This suggests that the Egyptian Nile Valley was not primarily settled by cold-adapted peoples, such as Europeans.

      Art objects are not generally used by biological anthropologists. They are suspect as data and their interpretation highly dependent on stereotyped thinking. However, because art has often been used to comment on the physiognomies of ancient Egyptians, a few remarks are in order. A review of literature and the sculpture indicates characteristics that also can be found in the Horn of (East) Africa (see, e.g., Petrie 1939; Drake 1987; Keita 1993). Old and Middle Kingdom statuary shows a range of characteristics; many, if not most, individuals depicted in the art have variations on the narrow-nosed, narrow-faced morphology also seen in various East Africans. This East African anatomy, once seen as being the result of a mixture of different “races,” is better understood as being part of the range of indigenous African variation.

      The descriptions and terms of ancient Greek writers have sometimes been used to comment on Egyptian origins. This is problematic since the ancient writers were not doing population biology. However, we can examine one issue. The Greeks called all groups south of Egypt “Ethiopians.” Were the Egyptians more related to any of these “Ethiopians” than to the Greeks? As noted, cranial and limb studies have indicated greater similarity to Somalis, Kushites and Nubians, all “Ethiopians” in ancient Greek terms.

      There are few studies of ancient DNA from Egyptian remains and none so far of southern predynastic skeletons. A study of 12th Dynasty DNA shows that the remains evaluated had multiple lines of descent, including not surprisingly some from “sub-Saharan” Africa (Paabo and Di Rienzo 1993). The other lineages were not identified, but may be African in origin. More work is needed. In the future, early remains from the Nile Valley and the rest of Africa will have to be studied in this manner in order to establish the early baseline range of genetic variation of all Africa. The data are important to avoid stereotyped ideas about the DNA of African peoples.

      The information from the living Egyptian population may not be as useful because historical records indicate substantial immigration into Egypt over the last several millennia, and it seems to have been far greater from the Near East and Europe than from areas far south of Egypt. “Substantial immigration” can actually mean a relatively small number of people in terms of population genetics theory. It has been determined that an average migration rate of one percent per generation into a region could result in a great change of the original gene frequencies in only several thousand years. (This assumes that all migrants marry natives and that all native-migrant offspring remain in the region.) It is obvious then that an ethnic group or nationality can change in average gene frequencies or physiognomy by intermarriage, unless social rules exclude the products of “mixed” unions from membership in the receiving group. More abstractly this means that geographically defined populations can undergo significant genetic change with a small percentage of steady assimilation of “foreign” genes. This is true even if natural selection does not favor the genes (and does not eliminate them).

      Examples of regions that have biologically absorbed genetically different immigrants are Sicily, Portugal, and Greece, where the frequencies of various genetic markers (and historical records) indicate sub-Saharan and supra-Saharan African migrants.

      This scenario is different from one in which a different population replaces another via colonization. Native Egyptians were variable. Foreigners added to this variability.

      The genetic data on the recent Egyptian population is fairly sparse. There has not been systematic research on large samples from the numerous regions of Egypt. Taken collectively, the results of various analyses suggest that modern Egyptians have ties with various African regions, as well as with Near Easterners and Europeans. Egyptian gene frequencies are between those of Europeans and some sub-Saharan Africans. This is not surprising. The studies have used various kinds of data: standard blood groups and proteins, mitochondrial DNA, and the Y chromosome. The gene frequencies and variants of the “original” population, or of one of early high density, cannot be deduced without a theoretical model based on archaeological and “historical” data, including the aforementioned DNA from ancient skeletons. (It must be noted that it is not yet clear how useful ancient DNA will be in most historical genetic research.) It is not clear to what degree certain genetic systems usually interpreted as non-African may in fact be native to Africa. Much depends on how “African” is defined and the model of interpretation.

      The various genetic studies usually suffer from what is called categorical thinking, specifically, racial thinking. Many investigators still think of “African” in a stereotyped, nonscientific (nonevolutionary) fashion, not acknowledging a range of genetic variants or traits as equally African. The definition of “African” that would be most appropriate should encompass variants that arose in Africa. Given that this is not the orientation of many scholars, who work from outmoded racial perspectives, the presence of “stereotypical” African genes so far from the “African heartland” is noteworthy. These genes have always been in the valley in any reasonable interpretation of the data. As a team of Egyptian geneticists stated recently, “During this long history and besides these Asiatic influences, Egypt maintained its African identity . . .” (Mahmoud et al. 1987). This statement is even more true in a wider evolutionary interpretation, since some of the “Asian” genes may be African in origin. Modern data and improved theoretical approaches extend and validate this conclusion.

      In summary, various kinds of data and the evolutionary approach indicate that the Nile Valley populations had greater ties with other African populations in the early ancient period. Early Nile Valley populations were primarily coextensive with indigenous African populations. Linguistic and archaeological data provide key supporting evidence for a primarily African origin.

      References Cited:

      Angel, J. L., and J. O. Kelley, Description and comparison of the skeleton. In The Wadi Kubbaniya Skeleton: A Late Paleolithic
      Burial from Southern Egypt. E Wendorf and R. Schild. pp. 53-70. Dallas: Southern Methodist University Press. 1986

      Brauer, G., and K. Rimbach, Late archaic and modern Homo sapiens from Europe, Africa, and Southwest Asia: Craniometric comparisons and phylogenetic implications, Journal of Human Evolution 19:789-807. 1990

      Drake, St. C., Black Folk Here and There, vol 1. Los Angeles: University of California. 1987

      Keita, S.O.Y., Studies and comments on ancient Egyptian biological relationships. History in Africa 20:129-154. 1993

      Mahmoud, L. et. al, Human blood groups in Dakhlaya. Egypt. Annuals of Human Biology. 14(6):487-493. 1987

      Paabo, S., and A. Di Rienzo, A molecular approach to the study of Egyptian history. In Biological Anthropology and the Study
      of Ancient Egypt. V. Davies and R. Walker, eds. pp. 86-90. London: British Museum Press. 1993

      Petrie, W.M., F. The Making of Egypt. London: Sheldon Press. 1984

      Thoma, A., Morphology and affinities of the Nazlet Khaterman. Journal of Human Evolution 13:287-296. 1984
      http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006741;p=1

      I UFO you Wright Brothers…

    • Please stop responding to this post, this gentleman is clearly dominating you intellectually. Please stop. You are making fools of your self.

  6. So you imply that ancient Egypt was a sort of the USA of the ancient world? Like the world was so interconnected that so many different origins conserved in Egypt? Sounds nice but unlikely.

    • I don’t know where you’re getting that. but a central geographical point is likely to have inflows from various populations and regions, and this is document for Kemet/Ancient Egypt, thought it was beyond the scope of the article. Are you replying to one of the comments?

  7. Overwhelming evidence suggest that ancients Egyptians and their kings and queens are black people. Who else can they be? Egypt is the bridge where humans, original all black, move across to Europe and Asia. It’s natural that ancient Egyptians have dark skins.

  8. 1st Egyptians were Africans -but not blacks-. Since very early in northafrica there were white populations (Bereberes, in Lybia…).
    Subsaharan Africans -blacks- encroached in later -decadent- Egypt.
    (Your photos of blonde blacks are not africans but melanesians, the others (aquiline noses etc) are obviously mulattoes, very far from more ‘pure’ blacks.) Very pathetic attempt to manipulate history.

  9. awesome…thanks for presenting truth and uncovering all the lies through the devil white-washing.

  10. This is so academically, archaeologically, and historically poor, that I dont know where to begin. This is so full erroneous assumptions, modern day cultural and racial prejudices and thoughts, and using present day photographs to represent prehistoric and ancient people.

    • This isn’t even worth my time, but because other people as poor as you read this blog I’m going to refute it.

      Your question implies that the proof of who built pyramids then is who is building them today.

      By that logic- or more properly the lack thereof- nobody built the pyramids, because no one is building them anymore.

    • The ancestors of Native South American peoples like todays Maya built pyramids also. They nolonger do so today because their civilization was conquered & destroyed. The technological ability was lost when their scribes were killed & their books burned. This happened in Egypt compounded by the migration,invasion & amalgamation of the original inhabitants for over 4000 yrs

  11. ‘Imliq was the progenitor of the ‘Imlags. And to them belong tale people of Barbar whose genealogy is as follows: Barbar Ibn Tamila Ibn Mazarab Ibn Fárán Ibn ‘Amr Ibn ‘Imliq Ibn Ludh Ibn Sam Ibn Nuh. As regards Sunhajah and Kutamah, they are the descendants of Fariqis Ibn Qays Ibn Sayfi Ihn Saba (Sheba). It is said that ‘Imliq was the first person to speak Arabic when his people had migrated from Babil. They along with the Jurhumites were known as al-‘Arab al-‘Aribah.
    imliq is the father of Amalekites who came the berbers, who are children of Thamila bin Maarib bin Faaraan bin Amr bin Imliq bin Lud bin Shem bin Nuh AS with the exception of Sinhaja and Kitaama who are offspring of Furayqish bin Sayfi bin Sibaa

    To Lud bin Shem was born Tasm and Judays?who dwelt in al Yamaamah.Lud also begot ‘Imliq whose dwelling place was the holy area(al haram) and the outskirts of Makka. Some of his descendant’s reached Syria among these are the Amalekites from whom the Pharaohs of Egypt came. To Lud to was born Umaym who had many offspring some of these broke away tojoin Gomer bin Japheth in East.(Prophets and Patriarchs)

    The Muslim historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounts a tradition that the wife of Lud was named Shakbah, daughter of Japheth, and that she bore him “Faris, Jurjan, and the races of Faris”. He further asserts that Lud was the progenitor of not only the Persians, but also the Amalekites and Canaanites, and all the peoples of the East, Oman, Hejaz, Syria, Egypt, and Bahrein. Wikipedia

  12. Nimrudh (Nimrod) was the son of Kush (Cush) Ibn Kan’an Ibn Ham lbn Nuh. The same who ruled Babil in the days of lbràhim, the friend of the Compassionate.
    http://www.soebratie.nl/religie/hadith/IbnSad

    Dravidians are the original mediterranean and sumerian people who are canaanites with lank hair they mixed with the Amorties(Imliq) and Akkadians the other canaanite people that mixed with the Imliq and Akkadians was same as pure native indians who have their own language and culture and there is a North African element

    The Mediterranean Peoples (Dravidians)
    (Extracts from ‘The Original Indians — An Enquiry’ by Dr. A. Desai)
    How the Mediterranean people came to be called Dravidians makes interesting story. The Pre-Hellenistic Lycians of Asi Minor, who where probably the Mediterranean stock called themselves Trimmili. Another tribe of this branch in the island of Crete was known by the name Dr(a)mil or Dr(a)miz. In ancient Sanskrit writings we find the terms Dramili and Dravidi, and then Dravida which referred to the southern portion of India.
    South India was known to the ancient Greek and Roman geographers as Damirica or Limurike. Periplus Maris Erithroei (Periplus of the Eritrean Sea) in the second or third century AD described the maritime route followed by Greek ships sailing to the South Indian ports: “Then follow Naoura and Tundis, the first marts of Limurike and after these Mouziris and Nelkunda, the seats of government.â€
    Dramila, Dravida and Damirica indicated the territory. Then it was applied to the people living in the territory and the language they spoke, in the local parlance Tamil and Tamil Nadu or Tamilakam.

    The Mediterraneans or Dravidians were associated with the ancient Sumerian civilizations of Mesopotamia and of Elam (southern Iran). Authors have pointed out ethnic, linguistic and cultural affinities between the Sumerians (Mesopotamians) and the Dravidians of South India, and concluded that both probably belonged to the same ethnic stock. HR Hall writes: “The ethnic type of the Sumerians, so strongly marked in their statues and relofs was as different from those of the races which surrounded them as was their language from those of the Semites, Aryans and others; they were decidedly Indian in type. The face-type of the average Indian today is no doubt much the same as that of the Dravidian race ancestors thousands of years ago…And it is to this Dravidian ethnic type of India that the ancient Sumerian bears most resemblance, so far as we can judge from his monuments. He was very like a Southern Hindu of the Deccan (who still speaks Dravidian languages). And it is by no means improbable that the Sumerians were an Indian tribe which passed, certainly by land, perhaps also by sea, through Persia to the valley of the Two Rivers.â€

    Dravidians In Crete they were known by the name which the Greeks wrote as Termilai, in Asia Minor as ‘Trimmili’ or Trimalai (Sastri p60), and in India as Dramiza, Dravida, Dramila and finally Tamil. Their deity was “Mother-Earth” who gave them grain, vegetables and food. The ‘Mother Goddess’ cult belonged exclusively to Crete where it was known as Durgha (compare Trqqas mentioned in Lycian inscriptions in Asia Minor) as Uma or Parvati. (Sastri p61) They probably brought along with them to India this Mediterranean or Aegean Saivaism, Mother Goddess with her consort Siva. (info from tamil scholar )

    • The information provided here is seems mostly puesdo religious & is derived from late 19th century early 20th century scholarship much of which was highly flawed. Dravidians have been in India longer than those Mediterranean civilizations you named even existed. Dravidians have no genetic or cultural link to Mediterranean peoples. Beyond trade that was facilitated by many middle men the only Levant peoples that probably had full contact with Dravidians were the Sumerians & theres scant hard evidence of this. Dravidians were orginally an Austronesean/Aboriginal people who now have added Eurasian dna,this via the Arya invasion/migration. This is why Tamil (Austro-Asiatic) is spoken by most Dravidian peoples were most of the rest of India speaks an Indo-European toungue like Sanskrit,Hindi & Punjabi. Indo-European toungue came in with the Arya(Aryan) peoples many thousands of years ago.

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